{"id":5496,"date":"2021-10-18T08:58:29","date_gmt":"2021-10-18T08:58:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.acefone.com\/blog\/?p=5496"},"modified":"2025-12-02T07:14:53","modified_gmt":"2025-12-02T07:14:53","slug":"expert-opinion-interview-david-avrin","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.acefone.com\/blog\/expert-opinion-interview-david-avrin\/","title":{"rendered":"Expert Opinion: Redefine CXs to Future-proof your Business"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">From the way we connect with people to how we consume information and purchase goods\u2014we prefer everything to be seamless and quick.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The scenario is no different for your customers.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">They no longer just look for affordable products. They prioritise speed, accessibility, flexibility, and convenience. In fact, today, offering convenience is better than being better.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But how do you do it?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It\u2019s simple: redefine the customer experiences your business delivers.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This, however, is easier said than done.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><strong>About David Avrin<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In continuation to our \u2018Expert Opinion\u2019 series, I spoke to customer experience expert, <a class=\"acefone_web_click\" href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/davidavrin\/\" target=\"blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\">David Avrin<\/a>. With over three decades of success in marketing and branding, David is a successful CX and marketing keynote speaker and consultant. He has also authored four books.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">David has spent 30 years of his life helping organisations craft messages that describe their objectives, purpose, and culture. However, it was just five years ago when he realised: <\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cWhat we say about ourselves is far less impactful than what other people say about us.\u201d<\/span><\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This was a huge turning point in his journey, shifting his focus from marketing and branding as the <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">most<\/span><\/i> <i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">significant<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> differentiator, to recognising customer experience as a <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">more<\/span><\/i> <i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">meaningful<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> aspect.<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In fact, this change led to one of his most insightful books\u2014<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><a class=\"acefone_web_click\" href=\"https:\/\/bombbomb.com\/blog\/the-customer-experience-podcast-david-avrin\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\">Why Customers Leave and How To Win Them Back<\/a>.<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So, without further ado, here are some excerpts from our conversation with David about evolving customer expectations and how you can satisfy them.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><strong>What defines a good customer experience?<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I believe customer experience is much more than \u2018service with a smile\u2019.<\/span> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It\u2019s examining every point along your customer\u2019s journey and asking\u2014can this be done better, faster, smarter, more conveniently, intuitively, memorably, or simply with less friction?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Today, customers have a plethora of options to choose from at their fingertips. So, when they feel they&#8217;re not heard or cared for, they leave.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And why this is more important today than it&#8217;s ever been before is because<\/span> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">they don&#8217;t <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">just<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> leave. They leave and tell thousands of people about their <a class=\"acefone_web_click\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=9T6DaoJSCXQ&amp;feature=youtu.be\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">negative experiences<\/a> with you.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I believe there&#8217;s a magic phrase in business: tell your customers what you can do for them. Then they know at least you&#8217;re making an effort to do something different.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<h3>Are <strong>digital assistants<\/strong> and AI the perfect solutions to the rising consumer needs?<\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I think chatbots are getting better.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">They have a role, and the role is essentially to answer the frequently asked questions. But I tend to be the one who doesn\u2019t ask questions that are frequently asked. So, it&#8217;s about omnichannel solutions for me.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">AI-enabled chatbots are a wonderful resource, as long as they also give customers the option to connect with a real-time human agent.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In fact, if you don\u2019t offer customers the option to engage with your agents, then it\u2019s not support, it\u2019s social engineering. It\u2019s simply you pushing your customers to do business with you the way you want them to, as opposed to the way your customers want.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><a class=\"acefone_web_click\" href=\"https:\/\/www.acefone.com\/blog\/expert-opinion-interview-steve-towers\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Customer experience<\/a> is more than just creating wow moments. You need to be remarkably easy to do business with\u2014easy to contact, easy to buy from, easy to consume information, and easy to get solutions.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3>What are some effective strategies that can help businesses retain customers during a global crisis?<\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Firstly, walk your customer\u2019s journey and eliminate all the points of friction, delay, and frustration.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Secondly, get a fresh perspective and go through your buying process. You may have wonderful products and services, and great pricing, too, but if your customers have to wait, you won\u2019t live up to their expectations.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And last but not the least, understand the changing world and expectations of your customers.<\/span> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In simpler terms, move from product-centric to a customer-centric approach.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<h3>Is social media a suitable medium for businesses to win more customers?<\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Social media is sort of conspicuous in its absence.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It is an incredible way to enhance your profile, engage, communicate and share your success. However, it&#8217;s not a very good mechanism for sales.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">You can connect with your customers and be a part of the conversation. Otherwise, the conversation happens without you. You need to make sure you&#8217;re a part of it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Also, I believe social media is your front porch. It&#8217;s meant to promote what you believe and stand for. It&#8217;s not a forum for people to talk about how much they hate you, but a mechanism for your customers to converse, complain, or comment.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3>How can newly launched businesses gain the trust of their customers?<\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Startups are already too focused on what they do, how they do it, and whom they sell to so that they can communicate with them.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">However, they need to be very conscious and intentional in designing their customer journey<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">How customers learn about them, buy from them, and how they follow up\u2014all this shouldn\u2019t just work for them, but it should be convenient and intuitive for their customers as well.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I\u2019ve seen people putting up websites with exceptional designs and animations, except visitors couldn&#8217;t find the relevant information.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">They say: \u201cIt&#8217;s just the third tab set on the top. Go to the drop-down menu, it&#8217;s the second one from the bottom.\u201d And I&#8217;m like, \u201cWell, you designed it. How are we supposed to know all of that?\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So, walk your customer journey with fresh eyes and move it towards simplicity and predictability. After you&#8217;re sure you have a great product and great service, simply focus on convenience.<\/span><\/p>\n<h4>Wrap up<\/h4>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">With this interview, David Avrin has not only shown us the importance of creating seamless customer experiences but has also given us valuable insights on how to deliver them.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">No matter your industry, size, or scale, all you have to do is prioritise your customer\u2019s convenience and satisfaction, and you can create a loyal clientele that will help you thrive.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">If you are looking for solutions that help you elevate the customer experiences your business delivers, the cloud is the way to go.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>From the way we connect with people to how we consume information and purchase goods\u2014we prefer everything to be seamless and quick.\u00a0 The scenario is no different for your customers. 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